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Just I'm overeager and just wanted to say Hello to you again in person. The presentation was recorded, as you know. It was just fantastic to have Cindy join Erica. However, many interesting and important areas of working with indigenous research outputs indigenous knowledge and we are very pleased that we have plenty of time for questions and comments.
We will be monitoring the chat, but also please feel free to jump in. We welcome not only questions but your related experience or any gaps that we left as we try to cover different aspects of working with indigenous knowledge.
So could you just put out a question there just to start us on this discussion, which is about cultural preservation and the role of indigenous knowledge initiatives, whether it's digitization or research data, and what are the opportunities and tensions there, especially digitization projects being seen as cultural preservation projects.
And of course, we welcome comments from all of you, but I'm just wondering if Cindy or Eric would have any observations about it. Thank you for the question, Maya. You know, when you talk, when you're looking at preservation in order all. Cultural community. Those gifts have been passed down and those remain within that community.
Now, the recording of those voices is something that is taboo in many communities. It's something where you would not do that. You would not ask an elder if you could record them for dissemination outside of that community, especially. So that's where it becomes tricky when we're looking at how we can support information professionals in obtaining access to that information for preservation purposes.
Not every community wants to receive that access. When it becomes a trickier issue is when you have a University who accesses these resources or has it already in their collection, and they are looking to digitize those files. And then they make that connection point with the community, hopefully. And in doing so, in establishing that relationship and that rapport, if they're told, actually, we want those files returned to us, those are our ancestors as our relatives.
That becomes another conversation. And one as preservation. Professionals are well versed and they understand access rights aren't always ownership rights. And so the blending of those is where it becomes a conversation that is often challenging when we see universities hold on to items in their collections, whether they have been bequeathed or they have sort them out or, you know, they don't really know how they received the item when they hold it and they maintain that ownership.
It's something where we need to see how we can work together, because while they may feel they have that privilege of ownership and that they want that information shared or at least preserved within even a special collection or one that has limited access rights. Shouldn't the voices of the people belong with that community? I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise. Yet this happens on a regular basis.
It happens with the best communities, the best universities, the best of any Museum or archive. And so it's something where if we're going to truly honor the people and what they need and what they want. It's going to be a unique situation every single time with each file, with each piece of information. And so that's really where this challenge is. You'll find some communities that say, absolutely, we want everything digitized, we want everyone to have access.
We're going to train our members. You know, these are the more progressive communities that have wealth. For the majority of Indian country, whether it's first nations or Native American in the war 50. You don't always see that same. Access to wealth. So you don't have that priority in those communities.
But what is most wealthy in those communities is that their stories, their culture, their ways of knowing, their ways of being. And so that's what they hold on to and that's what is so valuable to them. So do they feel that they need to share that without, say, community? Maybe maybe not. Do we feel as indigenous peoples that we should have access to our stories and our ways of being?
Absolutely of course. If we have true partners, information professionals in the communities that want to help us and teach us for those communities that lack resources, that would be a great opportunity to bring a toolkit, to help a community archive, to help a community move through the preservation process so that they understand protocols and how to move through that.
But we need to remain cognizant as information professionals that the community has their own protocols, too, and it's a system of honoring and respect and what this held sacred. So I know that there can be ambiguity in that and that sometimes people don't understand exactly what we mean when we say those things. So I'm always open for additional questions and I'll try to help as much as I can.
I hope that's helpful information. Cindy very important observations, Erica. Anything to add, especially as a world is looking into this area, it means of being a publisher, capturing history, access and preservation. Sure Cindy, just really heard you about the nuances around preservation, access and ownership and completely agree that it requires really good listening, measured collaboration and ultimately honoring where that access and ownership should lie based on the different conversations.
I think, as I mentioned, our inclusivity report from the self identified indigenous perspective really hit home that some of the struggles that indigenous researchers have when it comes to publication, knowledge transfer, dissemination. One thing just to add is that I think it's really important for publishers to commit to authentic knowledge. Transfer doesn't always look Western, it's not always a research journal, and that's a commitment that that has to happen.
It's something, as our next stage of first voices first rolls out on the publication side where committed to. Thanks, Erica. We welcome questions and comments. Maybe we'll just have 30 seconds of silence, sometimes uncomfortable, but maybe one of you will jump in. I have a question.
My name is Lisa. I'm at the University of California. And first of all, thank you for the session and thank you to the other speakers. This is really important information and really valuable to share. I have a question for Cindy. I was wondering if you know of and have any thoughts about the November 2022 guidance that was issued from the White House about incorporating indigenous knowledge into the work of agencies and just any thoughts you have about it.
And we've been reading it and wondering how we might support the inclusion of indigenous knowledge in the work of the ANSI. As we notice that there are learning agendas that they're supposed to include in all of their work and just trying to figure out if there's any role we might play in supporting indigenous scholars and folks and getting their knowledge incorporated into that. That's a great question.
Thank you, Lisa. Yes, of course, we are very excited when that change happened and when that announcement was made. So, of course, everything starts with sovereignty. We have to remain cognizant that these are sovereign nations that we are working with. And so nation to nation relationship is really the basis of where we begin these discussions.
We have to know who is in the community that has the authority to represent that community. So always starting with the tribal headquarters, making sure that you understand who the director is of the library archive or Museum cultural center, whatever, whatever housing unit they have in place for their collections. That's really where you start when you're building a collection or looking to collaborate and work with them.
I certainly hope that that would be the first step when we look at how we incorporate indigenous knowledge systems into information. You know, we have to look at the authorship. We have to make sure that this is truly an author who has that. Right to share that information and that hopefully they're a member of that community and that they know exactly what it is they were allowed to share.
Not everything is meant for sharing outside the community, as we know. And so it's important when we're looking at the nation the nation relationship, we remain cognizant that this sovereign nation has its own constitution, bylaws, ways of doing things and sharing information, especially so the federal government that has been a fractured relationship for quite some time and trust needs to be rebuilt.
So every community has a unique perspective in that regard. And so you really need to work locally on that to see exactly what it is they're wanting to share, to make sure that we all have that ability to support them. Does that help answer that question? Yeah, it does. Thank you. OK thank you.
Actually merely thank you for pointing out on the chat that there will be a session on tools. And resources where there will be a discussion on care principles. As I explained in my very brief introduction, obviously there is a very important component of our knowledge infrastructure.
And in many ways, Joy's presentation also illustrated how discovery and access and persistency and provenance are all very important principles of the knowledge space it means of making indigenous knowledge visible and also permanent in the space. But care is equally important, if not more important, as our speakers demonstrated, and I welcome actually the comments about both fair and care within this context, especially care where responsibility and ethics are really emphasized.
So question in the chat. Q yeah, there's a question from Steven Brewster, and I'm going to just read it quickly. There are multiple organizations that might have copies of indigenous resources, museums, research institutes, academic publishers and multiple academic disciplines that have interests in these resources linguistics, anthropology.
Is there a consensus among these organizations and disciplines as to best practice when dealing with these resources? Thank you for the question, Steven. You know, I don't know that there is consensus among the organizations explicitly, but I know that there is consensus among the communities that they represent and support. And with this national policy that's moving forward, what we would really like to see is that on all documentation that the permission is actually stated.
So this is distributed with under the authority of the scientist nation, you know, just throwing my tribe out there as that's what we would like to see. We want to make sure that we are acknowledging that the tribe itself has expressed that permission. So that we don't have a researcher or a scholar coming into a community, studying them, interviewing a few people.
Taking knowledge from an elder and not doing so in a good way. Everything we do is in a good way, and that means that it's for the good of the people and all of us coming together. So I think that it's important that organizations share that information while that top goal is to disseminate information and to help strengthen the information system of that area. What is very important is making sure that, again, they had the right to do so.
That is that's just vital to our success here, our shared success. You are welcome to add. But I also have a question for you. I don't know if you want to add first. I don't really have anything to add to Cindy's comments, which again are centered on responsibility when it comes to knowledge transfer and understanding the sovereignty.
It's a really good point. Erica, I was wondering if you could tell us a bit about how you are planning to evaluate this pilot and any kind of early results that you are seeing? Because sometimes it's not only providing access to resources, but making them easier to find and discover and just kind of putting them into workflows. Mm-hmm So this project has been extended for two years with the agreement of copel University of Saskatchewan.
The usage to the content itself has been good and solid and steady. We do rely on the librarians at those member schools to help us remind people and their patrons that these resources are available. Another thing that we offer. If if the need is there or people indicate they would like this is our publishing team is happy to go to schools and talk through ways to get published, whether it's a journal or a book, everything from the ethics to the whole process.
There are graduate students at these schools that we want to help if they're willing to continue their learning journey. The access in the traffic to the First Nations communities that are in tribal, that are intriguing for land, has been slower. This did launch really the pandemic was still very much in play in some of these communities, from what I learned, still have ongoing lack of support to equitable health care, for example.
So I think these communities, like the woman who is really the head of working with the musketeer nation, just said it's not as big a priority right now. We're looking out for our community and trying to stay healthy. And that, of course, is was more important than anything. But the usage is the easiest way for us to monitor. Is this resonating? Are the resources being used?
See other comments or questions. Well, I'll jump in and I have one more question or comment, whatever. However you interpret it, not only for speakers, but for all of us.
Maybe we didn't talk much about capacity building in indigenous communities because the narrative is usually about well resourced organizations, apparent heritage organizations, working with or collaborating with indigenous communities in digitising their content or getting or getting involved in kind of these initiatives. As you know, digital public library of America was initially created to be a hub for special digital collections, especially collections of a diverse range of communities.
But recently, more and more, I understand that they are focusing on capacity building and they are providing some incentives and also some small grants to community archives, of course, many of them being from indigenous communities. So anyway, I just wanted to ask you if you have any good examples of initiatives and capacity building or any opinions, questions, obstacles and opportunities in that area.
Thank you, oya. The Association for tribal archives, libraries and museums also offer grant opportunities and you'll see both them and IMLS. The Institute for Museum and Library Services provide grant funding opportunities for these tribal communities, and you'll often see the award notifications that there are projects specifically for capacity building at home.
The first organization I mentioned, they have a tribal library summit. They also have a preservation series, they have an archival certificate program. So when you're looking at what resources are available, there are some out there, the specific communities that have pursued that funding and are working through those projects. There are final reports that are available, especially on the emails in the database.
And so you can look at communities that are moving towards capacity building in their digital collections to follow up with them. Hopefully there's someone there locally, wherever you're at, where you can make a connection, and reach out to the principal investigator on that. Well, I'm very pleased that joy was able to join us. Hi, joy.
Hello how are you? Good, good. I'm sorry that you missed a part of the conversation, but I don't know if you heard the last question I asked or. No, I didn't hear the last question. That actually, joy is with us to welcome your questions about the Training Center in communication or this very exciting kid initiative that joy is a very important player in.
OK thank you so much. What we are trying to do with the Africa pedi alliance is provide kids assigned to African research output, giving it the assigned assigned name of Africa. Because what we noted is that it is not easy to harvest African research output. You'll have to either do it per country and that can be daunting. That is number one.
And then we also noted that beyond also pulling it out per country, not all of Africa's research output is indexed. And this comes down to infrastructural issues, the cost of pids and I know there have been initiatives to try and provide them for free, but free doesn't mean sustainable. We want something that is sustainable that at least the libraries can actually afford within their ecosystem and can work across the various infrastructure systems that they have.
Now this is really in the early stages and one of the things that we are so excited about this project is that we've had the African Union based Foundation partners who have committed to this project. So that is the Association of African universities. And we also looking at the Association of African universities. This is the umbrella body for all African African universities and the members of vice-chancellors and with the Association of African universities and the Association of the Association of African.
The Academy of the Association of Academy of Sciences is the umbrella body is for all National Academies in Africa. And that brings together the top researchers coming from the continent. But then on top of that, we've somehow managed to crack the code on and this is something we noted as a challenge as well, is patent data information, especially when you're looking at patent data.
Let's be honest, and I'm talking from a global South perspective, maybe from the global North perspective or countries where they've got better systems on indexing this patent, they've got better systems, especially within their patent, their patent agencies. One thing we noted is that the bulk of our patent agencies in Africa are not digitized. Let's start from there then.
Number two, when we are looking at patent information in citation databases, let's be very honest and this is something I've done, even whether it's through assignment or whether it's when I'm also with the bulk of my work. One of the things you have noticed is that all these patents are normally connected to research that has been done or funding that has been done.
So you can actually backtrack that. We are conveniently forgetting that there are walk ins who go into those patent agents where agencies where that information is not harvested. So when you're looking at patent innovation and the patent landscape coming out of a country, it is not. It's incomplete. Africa is now seen as. The silicon Savannah of we are now seeing being seen as the silicon Savannah.
Every year and I can comfortably say this year on year about 3 billion USD and that is on the lower side is invested in startups and new innovations in Africa. We do not have a true picture of the patent and innovation landscape in Africa. The continent has a regional patent agency, a report which only collates 13 countries of the 54 countries. So how are you basing this information? Ypo which is the umbrella body for patents, if you look at its patent scope, has 23 countries out of 193 countries.
So we have to start somewhere in seeing how we can provide pads for patent information, at least patent information that is already accessible. You know, let's start with what is available, what is not digitized. We support that process. And the other thing that we have also tried to crack the codon is on indigenous knowledge still coming from the global South. You know, the unintended consequence of internationalization when it comes to research collaboration is loss of indigenous knowledge and this cuts across the board, whether you are looking at it from indigenous knowledge in climate change, agriculture, from, from, from ecology, social sciences, you name it, we are always losing.
The aspect of indigenous knowledge is lost and there is and also the revenue generation that comes with it and also cultural heritage. Bearing in mind right now, especially in Africa, we are comfortably recognizing the beauty of our cultural heritage and including it in everyday activities. We are losing that as well. So with that, we are trying to figure out how can we assign pads to indigenous knowledge and our cultural heritage.
And with this and I've been telling all the collaborating partners we've started working with, for us this is a learning process. We are not going to sit down and complain that we don't know what to do to protect our indigenous knowledge is to start. But what we are trying to do is work with partners who have tried to figure it out and come to a common ground in providing pads on protecting our indigenous knowledge.
Because it's not actually a global south, it's not even an African problem, it's not even a global South problem. Even in the global north, which where you have indigenous communities, you are facing the same problem. So the question is how do you protect your indigenous knowledge, whether it is dress, whether it is dress, dance, music, any kind of information that comes out?
And also, bearing in mind we have to be very conscious of how far back do you go, especially when it comes to provenance. So this whole process is what we've begun doing. It is an exciting moment. We've got some really good support from even some of the global North global North partners, like we've got guidance from Dona Foundation to guide us on how to do this properly.
And we are looking at working with partners in the global North so that we can learn from some of the existing mistakes and challenges that some of us may have faced, our peers may have faced, so that we can effectively provide pads in these areas that have been conveniently or not, not conveniently, some of these areas that have not been accessible. And one of the most important things, and this is something I noticed in yesterday's talk, is we want these pads interoperable with other architectural systems such that because that is also another problem and I had it been discussed yesterday is that, yes, we have these amazing pads for these areas in the research lifecycle, but the fact that the architecture is not the same, they are not still harvested by some of the leading citation databases.
So we are actually trying to see how we can crack that code as well. The discussions have become with have begun with potential partners such that the pads we are going to provide are going to be SeamlessAccess and they can be harvested coming out of can be harvested. So that the information that is harvested coming out of the continent can also be seen in those citation databases.
Here is a fun fact. There are 1.7 million 400,000, about 1.7 million 400,000 research outputs coming out of Africa. From the oldest being the 1800s to 2023 of these 740,000 are open access. I can assure you there is more than that. These are the ones that are only assigned certain pads. So we are seeing half baked information.
So we are trying to crack that code and increasing African research visibility and especially in the lifecycle that an aspect of the life cycle that have been ignored bearing in mind, especially in the continent right now, revenue is being generated coming out of those aspects of the research lifecycle in this case on the innovation and the patents and also in our cultural heritage. Thank you so much for your.
Thank you very much. And it's really I think your example is just a wonderful illustration of how we tend to sometimes focus on more cultural aspects of indigenous knowledge space. But there's a very strong stem that needs to be increasingly recognized from kind of research perspective, from science perspective. And I think this project that you described us is just a wonderful example of that kind of more holistic approach to knowledge beyond just culture and heritage, which of course are incredibly important.
We still have a few minutes if you have any questions or comments, but we also understand if you want to take a little break in between sessions. I guess on behalf of our team here, Cindy joye, Erica and myself, we just want to thank you so much for joining. And I want to make sure that you did see merilee put some resources from oclc, some excellent resources related to capacity building.
So don't miss that. Thank you very much, and have a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank you. Thank you. See you later on in the day.
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Just I'm overeager and just wanted to say Hello to you again in person. The presentation was recorded, as you know. It was just fantastic to have Cindy join Erica. However, many interesting and important areas of working with indigenous research outputs indigenous knowledge and we are very pleased that we have plenty of time for questions and comments.
We will be monitoring the chat, but also please feel free to jump in. We welcome not only questions but your related experience or any gaps that we left as we try to cover different aspects of working with indigenous knowledge.
So could you just put out a question there just to start us on this discussion, which is about cultural preservation and the role of indigenous knowledge initiatives, whether it's digitization or research data, and what are the opportunities and tensions there, especially digitization projects being seen as cultural preservation projects.
And of course, we welcome comments from all of you, but I'm just wondering if Cindy or Eric would have any observations about it. Thank you for the question, Maya. You know, when you talk, when you're looking at preservation in order all. Cultural community. Those gifts have been passed down and those remain within that community.
Now, the recording of those voices is something that is taboo in many communities. It's something where you would not do that. You would not ask an elder if you could record them for dissemination outside of that community, especially. So that's where it becomes tricky when we're looking at how we can support information professionals in obtaining access to that information for preservation purposes.
Not every community wants to receive that access. When it becomes a trickier issue is when you have a University who accesses these resources or has it already in their collection, and they are looking to digitize those files. And then they make that connection point with the community, hopefully. And in doing so, in establishing that relationship and that rapport, if they're told, actually, we want those files returned to us, those are our ancestors as our relatives.
That becomes another conversation. And one as preservation. Professionals are well versed and they understand access rights aren't always ownership rights. And so the blending of those is where it becomes a conversation that is often challenging when we see universities hold on to items in their collections, whether they have been bequeathed or they have sort them out or, you know, they don't really know how they received the item when they hold it and they maintain that ownership.
It's something where we need to see how we can work together, because while they may feel they have that privilege of ownership and that they want that information shared or at least preserved within even a special collection or one that has limited access rights. Shouldn't the voices of the people belong with that community? I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise. Yet this happens on a regular basis.
It happens with the best communities, the best universities, the best of any Museum or archive. And so it's something where if we're going to truly honor the people and what they need and what they want. It's going to be a unique situation every single time with each file, with each piece of information. And so that's really where this challenge is. You'll find some communities that say, absolutely, we want everything digitized, we want everyone to have access.
We're going to train our members. You know, these are the more progressive communities that have wealth. For the majority of Indian country, whether it's first nations or Native American in the war 50. You don't always see that same. Access to wealth. So you don't have that priority in those communities.
But what is most wealthy in those communities is that their stories, their culture, their ways of knowing, their ways of being. And so that's what they hold on to and that's what is so valuable to them. So do they feel that they need to share that without, say, community? Maybe maybe not. Do we feel as indigenous peoples that we should have access to our stories and our ways of being?
Absolutely of course. If we have true partners, information professionals in the communities that want to help us and teach us for those communities that lack resources, that would be a great opportunity to bring a toolkit, to help a community archive, to help a community move through the preservation process so that they understand protocols and how to move through that.
But we need to remain cognizant as information professionals that the community has their own protocols, too, and it's a system of honoring and respect and what this held sacred. So I know that there can be ambiguity in that and that sometimes people don't understand exactly what we mean when we say those things. So I'm always open for additional questions and I'll try to help as much as I can.
I hope that's helpful information. Cindy very important observations, Erica. Anything to add, especially as a world is looking into this area, it means of being a publisher, capturing history, access and preservation. Sure Cindy, just really heard you about the nuances around preservation, access and ownership and completely agree that it requires really good listening, measured collaboration and ultimately honoring where that access and ownership should lie based on the different conversations.
I think, as I mentioned, our inclusivity report from the self identified indigenous perspective really hit home that some of the struggles that indigenous researchers have when it comes to publication, knowledge transfer, dissemination. One thing just to add is that I think it's really important for publishers to commit to authentic knowledge. Transfer doesn't always look Western, it's not always a research journal, and that's a commitment that that has to happen.
It's something, as our next stage of first voices first rolls out on the publication side where committed to. Thanks, Erica. We welcome questions and comments. Maybe we'll just have 30 seconds of silence, sometimes uncomfortable, but maybe one of you will jump in. I have a question.
My name is Lisa. I'm at the University of California. And first of all, thank you for the session and thank you to the other speakers. This is really important information and really valuable to share. I have a question for Cindy. I was wondering if you know of and have any thoughts about the November 2022 guidance that was issued from the White House about incorporating indigenous knowledge into the work of agencies and just any thoughts you have about it.
And we've been reading it and wondering how we might support the inclusion of indigenous knowledge in the work of the ANSI. As we notice that there are learning agendas that they're supposed to include in all of their work and just trying to figure out if there's any role we might play in supporting indigenous scholars and folks and getting their knowledge incorporated into that. That's a great question.
Thank you, Lisa. Yes, of course, we are very excited when that change happened and when that announcement was made. So, of course, everything starts with sovereignty. We have to remain cognizant that these are sovereign nations that we are working with. And so nation to nation relationship is really the basis of where we begin these discussions.
We have to know who is in the community that has the authority to represent that community. So always starting with the tribal headquarters, making sure that you understand who the director is of the library archive or Museum cultural center, whatever, whatever housing unit they have in place for their collections. That's really where you start when you're building a collection or looking to collaborate and work with them.
I certainly hope that that would be the first step when we look at how we incorporate indigenous knowledge systems into information. You know, we have to look at the authorship. We have to make sure that this is truly an author who has that. Right to share that information and that hopefully they're a member of that community and that they know exactly what it is they were allowed to share.
Not everything is meant for sharing outside the community, as we know. And so it's important when we're looking at the nation the nation relationship, we remain cognizant that this sovereign nation has its own constitution, bylaws, ways of doing things and sharing information, especially so the federal government that has been a fractured relationship for quite some time and trust needs to be rebuilt.
So every community has a unique perspective in that regard. And so you really need to work locally on that to see exactly what it is they're wanting to share, to make sure that we all have that ability to support them. Does that help answer that question? Yeah, it does. Thank you. OK thank you.
Actually merely thank you for pointing out on the chat that there will be a session on tools. And resources where there will be a discussion on care principles. As I explained in my very brief introduction, obviously there is a very important component of our knowledge infrastructure.
And in many ways, Joy's presentation also illustrated how discovery and access and persistency and provenance are all very important principles of the knowledge space it means of making indigenous knowledge visible and also permanent in the space. But care is equally important, if not more important, as our speakers demonstrated, and I welcome actually the comments about both fair and care within this context, especially care where responsibility and ethics are really emphasized.
So question in the chat. Q yeah, there's a question from Steven Brewster, and I'm going to just read it quickly. There are multiple organizations that might have copies of indigenous resources, museums, research institutes, academic publishers and multiple academic disciplines that have interests in these resources linguistics, anthropology.
Is there a consensus among these organizations and disciplines as to best practice when dealing with these resources? Thank you for the question, Steven. You know, I don't know that there is consensus among the organizations explicitly, but I know that there is consensus among the communities that they represent and support. And with this national policy that's moving forward, what we would really like to see is that on all documentation that the permission is actually stated.
So this is distributed with under the authority of the scientist nation, you know, just throwing my tribe out there as that's what we would like to see. We want to make sure that we are acknowledging that the tribe itself has expressed that permission. So that we don't have a researcher or a scholar coming into a community, studying them, interviewing a few people.
Taking knowledge from an elder and not doing so in a good way. Everything we do is in a good way, and that means that it's for the good of the people and all of us coming together. So I think that it's important that organizations share that information while that top goal is to disseminate information and to help strengthen the information system of that area. What is very important is making sure that, again, they had the right to do so.
That is that's just vital to our success here, our shared success. You are welcome to add. But I also have a question for you. I don't know if you want to add first. I don't really have anything to add to Cindy's comments, which again are centered on responsibility when it comes to knowledge transfer and understanding the sovereignty.
It's a really good point. Erica, I was wondering if you could tell us a bit about how you are planning to evaluate this pilot and any kind of early results that you are seeing? Because sometimes it's not only providing access to resources, but making them easier to find and discover and just kind of putting them into workflows. Mm-hmm So this project has been extended for two years with the agreement of copel University of Saskatchewan.
The usage to the content itself has been good and solid and steady. We do rely on the librarians at those member schools to help us remind people and their patrons that these resources are available. Another thing that we offer. If if the need is there or people indicate they would like this is our publishing team is happy to go to schools and talk through ways to get published, whether it's a journal or a book, everything from the ethics to the whole process.
There are graduate students at these schools that we want to help if they're willing to continue their learning journey. The access in the traffic to the First Nations communities that are in tribal, that are intriguing for land, has been slower. This did launch really the pandemic was still very much in play in some of these communities, from what I learned, still have ongoing lack of support to equitable health care, for example.
So I think these communities, like the woman who is really the head of working with the musketeer nation, just said it's not as big a priority right now. We're looking out for our community and trying to stay healthy. And that, of course, is was more important than anything. But the usage is the easiest way for us to monitor. Is this resonating? Are the resources being used?
See other comments or questions. Well, I'll jump in and I have one more question or comment, whatever. However you interpret it, not only for speakers, but for all of us.
Maybe we didn't talk much about capacity building in indigenous communities because the narrative is usually about well resourced organizations, apparent heritage organizations, working with or collaborating with indigenous communities in digitising their content or getting or getting involved in kind of these initiatives. As you know, digital public library of America was initially created to be a hub for special digital collections, especially collections of a diverse range of communities.
But recently, more and more, I understand that they are focusing on capacity building and they are providing some incentives and also some small grants to community archives, of course, many of them being from indigenous communities. So anyway, I just wanted to ask you if you have any good examples of initiatives and capacity building or any opinions, questions, obstacles and opportunities in that area.
Thank you, oya. The Association for tribal archives, libraries and museums also offer grant opportunities and you'll see both them and IMLS. The Institute for Museum and Library Services provide grant funding opportunities for these tribal communities, and you'll often see the award notifications that there are projects specifically for capacity building at home.
The first organization I mentioned, they have a tribal library summit. They also have a preservation series, they have an archival certificate program. So when you're looking at what resources are available, there are some out there, the specific communities that have pursued that funding and are working through those projects. There are final reports that are available, especially on the emails in the database.
And so you can look at communities that are moving towards capacity building in their digital collections to follow up with them. Hopefully there's someone there locally, wherever you're at, where you can make a connection, and reach out to the principal investigator on that. Well, I'm very pleased that joy was able to join us. Hi, joy.
Hello how are you? Good, good. I'm sorry that you missed a part of the conversation, but I don't know if you heard the last question I asked or. No, I didn't hear the last question. That actually, joy is with us to welcome your questions about the Training Center in communication or this very exciting kid initiative that joy is a very important player in.
OK thank you so much. What we are trying to do with the Africa pedi alliance is provide kids assigned to African research output, giving it the assigned assigned name of Africa. Because what we noted is that it is not easy to harvest African research output. You'll have to either do it per country and that can be daunting. That is number one.
And then we also noted that beyond also pulling it out per country, not all of Africa's research output is indexed. And this comes down to infrastructural issues, the cost of pids and I know there have been initiatives to try and provide them for free, but free doesn't mean sustainable. We want something that is sustainable that at least the libraries can actually afford within their ecosystem and can work across the various infrastructure systems that they have.
Now this is really in the early stages and one of the things that we are so excited about this project is that we've had the African Union based Foundation partners who have committed to this project. So that is the Association of African universities. And we also looking at the Association of African universities. This is the umbrella body for all African African universities and the members of vice-chancellors and with the Association of African universities and the Association of the Association of African.
The Academy of the Association of Academy of Sciences is the umbrella body is for all National Academies in Africa. And that brings together the top researchers coming from the continent. But then on top of that, we've somehow managed to crack the code on and this is something we noted as a challenge as well, is patent data information, especially when you're looking at patent data.
Let's be honest, and I'm talking from a global South perspective, maybe from the global North perspective or countries where they've got better systems on indexing this patent, they've got better systems, especially within their patent, their patent agencies. One thing we noted is that the bulk of our patent agencies in Africa are not digitized. Let's start from there then.
Number two, when we are looking at patent information in citation databases, let's be very honest and this is something I've done, even whether it's through assignment or whether it's when I'm also with the bulk of my work. One of the things you have noticed is that all these patents are normally connected to research that has been done or funding that has been done.
So you can actually backtrack that. We are conveniently forgetting that there are walk ins who go into those patent agents where agencies where that information is not harvested. So when you're looking at patent innovation and the patent landscape coming out of a country, it is not. It's incomplete. Africa is now seen as. The silicon Savannah of we are now seeing being seen as the silicon Savannah.
Every year and I can comfortably say this year on year about 3 billion USD and that is on the lower side is invested in startups and new innovations in Africa. We do not have a true picture of the patent and innovation landscape in Africa. The continent has a regional patent agency, a report which only collates 13 countries of the 54 countries. So how are you basing this information? Ypo which is the umbrella body for patents, if you look at its patent scope, has 23 countries out of 193 countries.
So we have to start somewhere in seeing how we can provide pads for patent information, at least patent information that is already accessible. You know, let's start with what is available, what is not digitized. We support that process. And the other thing that we have also tried to crack the codon is on indigenous knowledge still coming from the global South. You know, the unintended consequence of internationalization when it comes to research collaboration is loss of indigenous knowledge and this cuts across the board, whether you are looking at it from indigenous knowledge in climate change, agriculture, from, from, from ecology, social sciences, you name it, we are always losing.
The aspect of indigenous knowledge is lost and there is and also the revenue generation that comes with it and also cultural heritage. Bearing in mind right now, especially in Africa, we are comfortably recognizing the beauty of our cultural heritage and including it in everyday activities. We are losing that as well. So with that, we are trying to figure out how can we assign pads to indigenous knowledge and our cultural heritage.
And with this and I've been telling all the collaborating partners we've started working with, for us this is a learning process. We are not going to sit down and complain that we don't know what to do to protect our indigenous knowledge is to start. But what we are trying to do is work with partners who have tried to figure it out and come to a common ground in providing pads on protecting our indigenous knowledge.
Because it's not actually a global south, it's not even an African problem, it's not even a global South problem. Even in the global north, which where you have indigenous communities, you are facing the same problem. So the question is how do you protect your indigenous knowledge, whether it is dress, whether it is dress, dance, music, any kind of information that comes out?
And also, bearing in mind we have to be very conscious of how far back do you go, especially when it comes to provenance. So this whole process is what we've begun doing. It is an exciting moment. We've got some really good support from even some of the global North global North partners, like we've got guidance from Dona Foundation to guide us on how to do this properly.
And we are looking at working with partners in the global North so that we can learn from some of the existing mistakes and challenges that some of us may have faced, our peers may have faced, so that we can effectively provide pads in these areas that have been conveniently or not, not conveniently, some of these areas that have not been accessible. And one of the most important things, and this is something I noticed in yesterday's talk, is we want these pads interoperable with other architectural systems such that because that is also another problem and I had it been discussed yesterday is that, yes, we have these amazing pads for these areas in the research lifecycle, but the fact that the architecture is not the same, they are not still harvested by some of the leading citation databases.
So we are actually trying to see how we can crack that code as well. The discussions have become with have begun with potential partners such that the pads we are going to provide are going to be SeamlessAccess and they can be harvested coming out of can be harvested. So that the information that is harvested coming out of the continent can also be seen in those citation databases.
Here is a fun fact. There are 1.7 million 400,000, about 1.7 million 400,000 research outputs coming out of Africa. From the oldest being the 1800s to 2023 of these 740,000 are open access. I can assure you there is more than that. These are the ones that are only assigned certain pads. So we are seeing half baked information.
So we are trying to crack that code and increasing African research visibility and especially in the lifecycle that an aspect of the life cycle that have been ignored bearing in mind, especially in the continent right now, revenue is being generated coming out of those aspects of the research lifecycle in this case on the innovation and the patents and also in our cultural heritage. Thank you so much for your.
Thank you very much. And it's really I think your example is just a wonderful illustration of how we tend to sometimes focus on more cultural aspects of indigenous knowledge space. But there's a very strong stem that needs to be increasingly recognized from kind of research perspective, from science perspective. And I think this project that you described us is just a wonderful example of that kind of more holistic approach to knowledge beyond just culture and heritage, which of course are incredibly important.
We still have a few minutes if you have any questions or comments, but we also understand if you want to take a little break in between sessions. I guess on behalf of our team here, Cindy joye, Erica and myself, we just want to thank you so much for joining. And I want to make sure that you did see merilee put some resources from oclc, some excellent resources related to capacity building.
So don't miss that. Thank you very much, and have a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank you. Thank you. See you later on in the day.
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